Typically, the debonding and sliding interface enabling fiber pullout for SiC-fiber-reinforced SiC-matrix composites with BN-based interphases occurs between the fiber and the interphase. Recently, composites have been fabricated where interface debonding and sliding occur between the BN interphase and the matrix. This results in two major improvements in mechanical properties. First, significantly higher failure strains were attained due to the lower interfacial shear strength with no loss in ultimate strength properties of the composites. Second, significantly longer stress-rupture times at higher stresses were observed in air at 815degreesC. In addition, no loss in mechanical properties was observed for composites that did not possess a thin carbon layer between the fiber and the interphase when subjected to burner-rig exposure. Two primary factors were hypothesized for the occurrence of debonding and sliding between the BN interphase and the SiC matrix: a weaker interface at the BN/matrix interface than the fiber/BN interface and a residual tensile/shear stress-state at the BN/matrix interface of melt-infiltrated composites. Also, the occurrence of outside debonding was believed to occur during composite fabrication, i.e., on cooldown after molten silicon infiltration.